The Grandma Factor – GigGab Podcast 136

Dissecting different types of working bands, it’s time to look into what makes a band a wedding band. Could your band make the leap? Would you want to? Paul and Dave discuss. Then it’s on to finalizing the process for Paul’s drummer auditions, including how much the band should talk about the process during the process. All of this … and more… on this week’s GigGab!


  • 00:00:00 GigGab 136 – Monday, October 16, 2017
  • 00:01:01 Cover Band Central
  • 00:02:17 Watching your own band!
  • 00:06:38 At weddings… it’s not about you!
  • 00:08:09 The Sweet Caroline response has permeated
  • 00:08:46 The Grandma Factor
  • 00:10:31 Managing the volume of wedding gigs
  • 00:13:57 Recognizing how great your band is
  • 00:16:00 Bruno Mars
  • 00:19:03 Dissecting the boys club vibe
  • 00:26:10 It’s not the wedding band’s job to be clever
  • 00:29:01 Petty tributes explode!
  • 00:31:09 Dead Guy Tunes
  • 00:32:30 Organizing a Petty tribute
  • 00:35:32 Houserocker drummer auditions coming up!
  • 00:37:13 Do you dissect during the audition process?
  • 00:44:37 GG Outtro

Replaying the Hits, and Reevaluating Your Habits – GigGab 135

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It’s time for some dissecting, folks. Dave and Paul spend some time dissecting Yes, the band, and then dissecting their own bands and projects. Finding what works, what doesn’t, and being careful not to over-analyze and change too much is the goal. Listen and follow along!


  • 00:00:00 GigGab 135 – Monday, October 9, 2017
  • 00:00:20 That floating Petty Groove
  • 00:01:37 Yes – Anderson, Rabin, Wakeman
  • 00:06:23 Dissecting Yes’s Harmonies
  • 00:08:43 Favorite Yes song to play?
  • 00:10:59 Subbing yourself out
  • 00:14:50 Watching another band
  • 00:17:54 Competition
  • 00:18:19 Reprising a previous show
  • 00:22:21 Beatles Mad Haus
  • 00:24:23 Fling Fests
  • 00:28:40 Looking to the future
  • 00:30:22 Changes!
  • 00:31:19 Shared Crisis revisited

3 minutes, 4 Chords, and The Truth: Remembering Tom Petty – GigGab 134

3 Minutes, 4 Chords, and The Truth: Remembering Tom Petty – GigGab 134Paul and Dave take a moment – actually, an entire episode – to reflect upon what Tom Petty and his music meant to each of them. They have quite different stories to tell… press play, listen, and enjoy!


  • 00:00:00 GigGab 134 – Thursday, Oct 5, 2017
  • 00:01:07 Tom Petty
  • 00:02:43 Watch out for cocaine, folks
  • 00:04:12 All the gifts Tom Petty left for “classic rock” cover musicians
  • 00:05:04 The history of Tom Petty
  • 00:07:22 Three Minutes, Four Chords, and The Truth
  • 00:09:15 Those grooves, those changes
  • 00:09:44 Dave’s long road to Tom Petty
  • 00:12:46 Listen to Her Heart
  • 00:17:18 Difficult Petty songs to play
  • 00:19:15 Paul’s Tom Petty Tribute night
  • 00:19:58 Always Capitalize on (this) good fortune
  • 00:25:58 Petty’s Drummers
  • 00:27:53 Sonic Deliciousness
  • 00:28:57 Dave Grohl played in The Heartbreakers!
  • 00:32:52 Thanks to Tom Petty
  • 00:34:15 Are Kids into Petty?
  • 00:37:13 GG 134 Outtro

Divvying Up Money and Perfecting your In-Ears – GigGab 133

pig sitting on money with GigGab 133 titleHow does your band divvy up gig money? Is there transparency or is it just flat-rate and that’s that? Paul and Dave talk through the finer (and not-so-finer!) points of this. Then it’s time to revisit the in-ears conversation, this time focusing on perfection. First though, Dave’s Gone Skiing… and he loved it, but not in the way you’d think. Listen in for more!


  • 00:00:00 GigGab 133 – Monday, Sept 25, 2017
  • 00:01:33 Amped after a gig… it happens to all of us!
  • 00:02:16 Water is the key to the next day!
  • 00:05:59 Dave’s Gone Skiing… and he loved it!
  • 00:08:44 Wedding Money
  • 00:10:50 PA Rental Fees
  • 00:23:09 In-Ears, Gain structure
    • Shure Wireless Bodypack
  • 00:27:40 In-Ears mix
  • 00:39:49 In-Ears are all about perfection, don’t be afraid to ask for support

Getting Your Moment to Shine – GigGab 132

Spotlights on the text getting your moment to shineEveryone wants their moment to shine, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the same thing for everyone. Figuring out what that means for you is important. Even moreso, though, is figuring out what that means for your band members. Whether you’re a leader or in a democratic scenario, making sure everyone feels like they got what they needed out of a gig is vital to your band’s long-term success. Paul and Dave talk through some lessons they’ve learned along these lines over the years.

Then it’s time to talk about confidence. Having it, shaping it, breaking it, finding it, building it. Confidence is the key to making your performances entertaining for your audience. Paul and Dave have some experience – and missteps! – for this topic, as well. Press play… and enjoy!


  • 00:00:00 GigGab 132 – Monday, Sept 18, 2017
  • 00:02:07 What does “Your Moment to Shine” mean to you?
  • 00:05:49 Fitting in those obscure, mid-tempo numbers
  • 00:06:55 Sideman vs. Bandmember
  • 00:10:52 What tunes totally work?
  • 00:14:05 Don’t ignore the quiet bandmembers
  • 00:14:51 Obscure tunes: band buy-in
  • 00:16:36 Specific versions of specific songs
  • 00:21:18 Don’t keep your band in a box
  • 00:24:10 On-stage communication microphones
  • 00:27:32 Letting A-Players play their A-Game
  • 00:29:07 Paul’s Springsteen gig … again!
  • 00:31:08 External factors getting into your head
  • 00:37:05 Stretching your instrumental faculties
  • 00:39:32 Learning how to approach a show
  • 00:41:40 Always be Performing means something different when it’s just you!
  • 00:43:54 Confidence vs. Intimidation
  • 00:45:55 Know yourself… and get out of your head!
  • 00:47:12 GG Outtro

The “American Girl” Litmus Test – GigGab 131

Scientist doing a test with the text The "American Girl" litmus testSometimes you’ve gotta replace a bandmate… and sometimes it’s the drummer. Your two favorite band geeks talk through this process in-depth today, exploring both how you find someone (yes, including Craigslist!) and then how you might go about auditioning them. But it’s more than that… how do you get to know them? And what’s does “American Girl” have to do with it? You’ll have to listen to find out!


  • 00:00:00 GigGab 131 – Wednesday, Sept 13, 2017
  • 00:00:52 Searching for a new drummer
  • 00:05:51 We like the same music, we like the same bands, we like the same clothes
  • 00:10:12 You drummers are crazy people, I’ll tell you that!
  • 00:10:47 Craigslist is great for vetting people
  • 00:15:20 Managing the purists
  • 00:17:27 Syncing your goals and availability are the most important things
  • 00:25:37 Have a well-defined audition process
  • 00:29:07 The “American Girl” Litmus Test
  • 00:36:29 GG Outtro

Multiple Bands, Weather Issues, and Tip Jars – GigGab 130

tip jarWhether it’s you or someone you play with, you’ve almost certainly got to deal with the juggling act of playing in multiple bands. How do you handle schedule conflicts? What’s the best policy for you to have? Then it’s on to how you choose and learn songs in your band. Paul and Dave certainly have thoughts to share about this! They’ve also got some tricks and tips to share, too, about highlighting the tip jar in creative ways and dealing with those crazy nights when the weather feels like another member of the band. Press play and enjoy!


  • 00:00:00 GigGab 130 – Tueday, Sept 5, 2017
  • 00:00:49 Weather-related low-attendance
  • 00:04:06 Those “we’re all in this together” kind of gigs
  • 00:07:15 Tweaking songs you’ve played for years
  • 00:11:20 Walter Becker RIP, and a Steely Dan discussion
  • 00:18:40 Rob-Juggling Multiple Bands
  • 00:29:46 Handling Marquee Nights
  • 00:32:13 Having a depth chart to buffer scheduling conflicts
  • 00:36:16 When booking a private party, ask for people’s preferences
  • 00:37:26 A trick to reference the tip jar
  • 00:40:05 Rob-Who Chooses The Songs?
    • pK’s Words of Wisdom: “You get more from the buy-in than you do from the control”
  • 00:46:14 How do you learn songs?
  • 00:55:06 GG Outtro

The R.C.P.M. Formula – GigGab 129

RCPM, The Magic Formula in text over chemistry beakersPaul’s experience with the Los Gatos Music in the Park series over the past 10 weeks has given him a lot to think. What’s the secret to making a band successful? What even defines success? This is the backdrop today as he and Dave talk through all of this… and more. Hear their suggestion for a magic success formula, too. RCPM!


  • 00:00:00 GigGab 129 – Monday, August 28, 2017
  • 00:03:30 Dave’s Theorum Proven Again!
  • 00:04:08 Pop Rocks plays Los Gatos’s Concert Series
  • 00:05:05 Watching another band totally rock it!
    • Timothy B. Schmit, “Every band is on the verge of breaking up at all times.”
  • 00:06:49 Success Metrics
  • 00:10:06 The R.C.P.M. Formula
  • 00:10:50 Repertoire
  • 00:13:25 Chops
  • 00:15:12 Performance
  • 00:16:24 Marketing
  • 00:19:23 Do you believe your product is worth your price?
  • 00:20:27 Promo Materials
  • 00:21:56 Beware change! Embrace change!
  • 00:25:02 Take your finger off the nuclear button
  • 00:26:26 Leaders: are you a benevolent dictator? Should you be?
  • 00:28:26 Remember you’ve got to rely on each other
  • 00:34:10 Knowing your audience, and catering to them.
  • 00:38:06 What’s your scene?
  • 00:40:32 Trombone Shorty rocks it!

Finding Your Band’s Formula – GigGab 128

guitar as a chemistry beakerWhen you’re picking songs to play, how much attention to you pay to the studio arrangement versus finding a live track? Which have you found works better for you? How do you distill that down in your band’s formula? These are the answers Paul and Dave share in today’s episode. Then it’s on to a conversation about maintaining your poker face on stage when things don’t go as planned. How do you train yourself to do it? How do you keep your cool? Listen… and enjoy!


  • 00:00:00 GigGab 128 – Monday, August 21, 2017
  • 00:01:30 Spring Awakening – an exercise in sight-reading for Dave
  • 00:05:51 Studio tracks vs. Live tracks
  • 00:10:40 Listening to covers of others’ Covers
  • 00:18:42 When choosing tunes: Covers vs. Originals
  • 00:19:53 One formula: pick popular songs
  • 00:25:31 Find a formula that works for your band
  • 00:28:12 Confidence is key
  • 00:31:10 Poker face on stage – dealing with mistakes
  • 00:39:34 Use Your Ears
  • 00:44:29 The musical conversation starts with trust
  • 00:45:53 How do you deal with sloppiness
  • 00:46:42 GG Outtro

Gig Number Three is the Magic One! – GigGab 127

The number 3 in lightsBoth Paul and Dave had their third gigs with replacement drummers in their respective bands… and they both found that’s the gig when a little bit of magic begins to happen. Hear them tell their tales and dig into the nuts and bolts of it all. Dave also had an experience and revelation with recreational pot at his gig… and it’s not at all like we just made it sound! You’ll have to listen to learn more about that. Then it’s time to answer a listener email about dealing with the ethics and politics of being in the music business… and Dave’s got some recent perspective of his own to share, too. Press play and enjoy, folks. This one’s chock-full of goodness!


  • 00:00:00 GigGab 127 – Monday, August 14, 2017
  • 00:01:25 Paul’s Third Sub-drummer Gig
  • 00:02:30 Charity Gigs are often the best gigs
  • 00:07:20 Dave’s Third Gig with Uptown Celebration
  • 00:08:12 Recreational Pot brings the dancers back!
  • 00:11:20 How to handle a gig after a great rehearsal
  • 00:13:25 Riding the ebb and flow of your band’s successes
  • 00:16:23 Song choices are important
  • 00:22:30 Cross-generational songs
  • 00:23:27 Play the hits!
  • 00:26:26 Don’t Bore Us with Filler!
  • 00:27:17 Email from Mr X: Dealing with Unethical Businesspeople
  • 00:32:07 Creative scenes are both incestuous and competitive
  • 00:40:53 Tweaking Your Own BS Meter
  • 00:43:28 GG Outtro